markdidj — 2010-06-21T21:48:48-04:00 — #1
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Ajax_(programming) (Might need to copy and paste link, including brackets)
I created a changeScript function, which I use alot, which does this type of thing. I first published it in 2003, which beats Jesse James Garret's publications by 2 years. Here's a link to the page, written on a forum I was a member of, and still am.
Here's a few more from Sitepoint....
Discussing Caching of js imported after page load http://www.sitepoint.com/forums/showthread.php?t=128223 13th September 2003
The first even predates the application for the patent by a month. "US Patent #7,523,401 being issued to Greg Aldridge of Kokomo, IN."
Does anyone know if there's any reference to this method before mine?
markdidj — 2010-06-22T13:09:23-04:00 — #2
That includes the wiki pages in Google Code?
alexdawson — 2010-06-22T12:52:36-04:00 — #3
GPL is usually a good choice, there should be overviews somewhere for all the open source licenses (if you wanted to know what it covers). I agree with the web section, it seems to fit the nature of the project (in terms of it not being language specific). As for Wikipedia, you can't use forum posts (that I'm aware of) as links or citable evidence for something's credibility, it's denoted in the Wikipedia posting and citation rules.
alexdawson — 2010-06-22T10:19:14-04:00 — #4
If you want to make the method successful (people will actually use it), don't charge for the code. It's a pretty simple statement of fact that between Ajax (which is free and loads of libraries exist) or a commercial alternative with few real world uses, no-one will go near your option. Under normal circumstances you can't complete with free, but going up against something like Ajax which has code, entire libraries, constant exposure, books, tutorials, videos and more dedicated too it with a commercial alternative... it's not going to work (and there's nothing stopping people adapting yours and giving it away).
PS: Very few people buy code as code, they buy solutions (like forum software) or custom work (made on-demand), you'll have a very hard time justifying the price.
felgall — 2010-06-22T18:28:09-04:00 — #5
I don't know what rights Netscape might still hold over that name.
markdidj — 2010-06-22T11:53:55-04:00 — #6
I've created an Open Source project and called it livescript under the Artistic License/GPL Do you think this is the correct license?
Many thanks Alex (although I'm sure one would do the job )
Also, in the wiki pages is it OK to post the links that I posted in the first section above, the ones that point to my initial posts in 2003?
markdidj — 2010-06-22T08:13:10-04:00 — #7
http://www.sitepoint.com/forums/showthread.php?t=684645 - My post near the bottom of this page shows how it works, and it is a much simpler method than Ajax. It runs the whole of my site, including the zooming of the maps, the cms, the statistics page including sorting. I haven't come across the need of XML yet as I don't read feeds or (x)HTML from other sites. The only benefits Ajax has over it is that it reads XML. Ajax is more difficult for the layman though.
I have even set up few sites with this function, which allows me to import data or html from their site to mine, or visa versa, and by reading the top.location I can allow or disallow the function.
It's quite a powerful script.
markdidj — 2010-06-22T10:03:55-04:00 — #8
Would it be better to take this route if I wanted to earn money from it? A friend that's more of a hardware expert keeps telling me I should. I'm quite a good programmer, but prefer artistic coding (interactive guitars, drums, mazes) to business coding and I'm rubbish designer. I'm sat here skint as usual though, working part-time self employed with occassional work. The only guaranteed income is £51 per week working tax credit. I'm not too worried about this, as I enjoy developing most of all, but I'd rather get away from the benefits system.
I've started to take my friends advice, and looking to go open in the hope it may bring in a wage.
alexdawson — 2010-06-22T06:59:22-04:00 — #9
markdidj — 2010-06-22T11:09:38-04:00 — #10
alexdawson — 2010-06-22T09:25:16-04:00 — #11
As for making it open source, all you need to-do is put the code and documentation on the web (somewhere like Google code would be ideal where it could get exposure), attach an open source license (there's a number which exist) and place your code under that, then go out and promote the method to get it noticed.
alexdawson — 2010-06-22T14:14:17-04:00 — #12
Oh sorry, got confused there, no it won't include that. You can list whatever you like in Google Code's Wiki.
markdidj — 2010-06-22T08:26:18-04:00 — #13
I'm thinking of going Open Source with it, as it's getting alot of work as it powers my cms and everything else. I've also translated it into PHP. Do you think the public would want it? How would I go about making it officially open source?
markdidj — 2010-06-22T22:37:38-04:00 — #14
What would this be called, felgall?
Are there any previous versions on the internet?
BTW. You're a hard man to please, still