Incorrect _index url for my site categories

c1pri · December 18, 2012, 12:00pm

Hi,

After loading my site www.FlashUser.net ( wordpress 3.5 ) in a browser and click on a category from the top categories ( Css, Freebies, Inspiration etc ) I see this link in the browser:

http://www.flashuser.net/_index ( which does not exist in my site, I guess is the default 404 page )

If I click on the Css category the correct link should be http://www.flashuser.net/category/css ( as you see when mouse over a category in the bottom bar of the browser or page source )

If I click on the Freebies category the correct link should be http://www.flashuser.net/category/freebies

and so on

I have addressed this to the hosting support couple of times but none knows to give me a solution on what is this and how to solve it.

( sometimes the category pages loads correctly but most of the time this _index url is displayed, the rest of the site pages loads fine )

Hope someone has an idea and can help. Thanks.

Regards,
Mike

MarPlo · December 18, 2012, 12:34pm

Hi
Check in the .htaccess file, maybe it is some code that redirects to “_index”.
The problem can be also from a javascript script, or in php, hard to guess, but maybe someone else know for sure the solution.

c1pri · December 18, 2012, 12:51pm

Thank you for your reply.

I have checked the .htaccess file and I have the following rules for categories:

RedirectMatch 301 /freebies/(.*)\.(html) http://www.flashuser.net/$1

this redurects the old posts from this category to a new url but the category link returns 404…

ServerStorm · December 18, 2012, 11:14pm

Hi c1pri,

Have you seen a pattern where is works consistently for one category or a set of step you take? At this point the RedirectMatch should not create all categories to perform this way. I’ll let the expert rewriters comment on your rewrite string, but at this point as @MarPlo has said it could be a PHP router (switch statement) failing, or JavaScript; or even a overcrowded shared hosting not keeping up so it fails when under high load and doesn’t under low load.

Do you have a local WAMP or LAMP stack setup so that you can transfer the site and test it in a different environment to see if it is the code or the host?

Have you tested with JavaScript disabled?

Have you investigated how the categories are being routed in the application - by reviewing the index page and see how categories are dispatched and routed?

You must have a rewriting script that is transforming your url into a pretty form. Can you paste the whole rewriting script here?

Regards,
Steve

c1pri · December 19, 2012, 8:34am

ServerStorm:

Hi c1pri,

Have you seen a pattern where is works consistently for one category or a set of step you take? At this point the RedirectMatch should not create all categories to perform this way. I’ll let the expert rewriters comment on your rewrite string, but at this point as @MarPlo has said it could be a PHP router (switch statement) failing, or JavaScript; or even a overcrowded shared hosting not keeping up so it fails when under high load and doesn’t under low load.

Do you have a local WAMP or LAMP stack setup so that you can transfer the site and test it in a different environment to see if it is the code or the host?

Have you tested with JavaScript disabled?

Have you investigated how the categories are being routed in the application - by reviewing the index page and see how categories are dispatched and routed?

You must have a rewriting script that is transforming your url into a pretty form. Can you paste the whole rewriting script here?

Regards,
Steve

Hello,

I haven’t seen such pattern ( it’s possible to be the host - I have the site hosted at bluehost - although as far as I know they are pretty known hosting company, but as a last alternative I will will transfer and test the site to another host … I have performed a small similar rewrite test on another wordpress site I have / different hosting and seems to work fine … but it’s pretty hard to believe that the hosting is the problem ).

For the moment I am looking for a simpler solution.

Basically I have this RedirectMatch rules to point some old posts to new urls. My question would be … how long does it takes for Google to index the new urls? After the re-indexing I still need to have these .htaccess rules or I can comment them ?

If I comment the rewrite line the category url is always displayed correctly, activate again the rule line and the 404 not found problem shows up again.

I don’t have a rewriting script, I have these rewrite rules inside .htaccess which are interpretted by the web server ).

Regards,
Mike

ServerStorm · December 19, 2012, 4:18pm

c1pri:

Hello,

I haven’t seen such pattern ( it’s possible to be the host - I have the site hosted at bluehost - although as far as I know they are pretty known hosting company, but as a last alternative I will will transfer and test the site to another host … I have performed a small similar rewrite test on another wordpress site I have / different hosting and seems to work fine … but it’s pretty hard to believe that the hosting is the problem ).

For the moment I am looking for a simpler solution.

Basically I have this RedirectMatch rules to point some old posts to new urls. My question would be … how long does it takes for Google to index the new urls? After the re-indexing I still need to have these .htaccess rules or I can comment them ?

If I comment the rewrite line the category url is always displayed correctly, activate again the rule line and the 404 not found problem shows up again.

I don’t have a rewriting script, I have these rewrite rules inside .htaccess which are interpretted by the web server ).

Regards,
Mike

Hi Mike,

If you have ruled out that your server (at your host) is not the problem then there is no need to do this test.

Could you post your entire .htaccess file?

301 and 302 redirects are cached both in search engines like Google, but also in visitors Chrome and Firefox browsers. It really depends on how many visitors have run through the redirect and how many search engine indexing bots have travelled through. There is no specific set time. You can pay attention to your search engine rankings and ensure they are using the correct URL paths.

Steve

c1pri · December 19, 2012, 5:09pm

Hello,

Find attached the .htaccess file.

Regards,
Mike

ServerStorm · December 20, 2012, 12:23am

Hi Mike,

Sorry I meant for you to post your .htaccess in a code block. Don’t worry I’ve done it here. Calling the rewrite gurus


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dklynn · December 20, 2012, 4:41am

Before you go posting massive code, please check your WP configuration file as it sounds as if it’s the likely culprit.

It may also have written something into your .htaccess file which is why Steve was asking about that - look for DirectoryIndex or RewriteBase directives but look to WP’s config.php fileS first.

Regards,

DK

c1pri · December 20, 2012, 11:08am

Hello,

Thanks DK for the reply but the WP config file is fine.

I’ve got a reply to my ticket from my hosting provider ( bluehost ) as follows:

[I]What you have in there for the rule would match to the correct url with your redirect if the link to it was in the following format
http://www.flashuser.net/freebies/category/freebies.html

Because your rule first searches for a directory called /freebies/ then when it finds it matches everything behind that until it finds a dot then html . It then takes whatever was between those two and sends that to the index.php for processing (that is what that redirect tracer is interpreting as http://www.flashuser.net/_index

you might want to try:
RedirectMatch 301 /freebies/(.*)\.(html) http://www.flashuser.net/?$1

and see if that works but the question mark would be visible to users.

Thank you,
Jason | BlueHost
Level II Site/Script Compatibility[/I]

I’ve tried what Jason suggested but it returns http://www.flashuser.net/?_index which displays the index page of my site.

The correct category url for freebies should be http://www.flashuser.net/category/freebies

regards,
Mike

dklynn · December 21, 2012, 8:51am

c1,

Okay, if you still have a problem (which you do), please post your .htaccess file as requested earlier. That’s the only way we’re going to be able to sort through the internal redirections.

Regards,

DK

c1pri · December 21, 2012, 9:55am

My .htaccess was aready posted yesterday by ServerStorm in a code block -> see his message from Yesterday 02:23 ( originally sent by me in a .zip pack on Dec 19, 2012 19:09 ).

c1pri · December 21, 2012, 2:30pm

In addition to my previous message here is an example to better understand the problem:

For the photography category an old post url was:

http://www.flashuser.net/photography/great-wildlife-photography.html

In the .htaccess I have this rule:

RedirectMatch 301 /photography/(.*)\.(html) http://www.flashuser.net/$1

The new post url is ( correct ):

http://www.flashuser.net/great-wildlife-photography

The category url link should be: http://www.flashuser.net/category/photography

but when you click photography the url has that _index ( 404 not found )

The question is what would be the solution to have the old posts and their adjacent category urls displayed correctly as I’ve described above?

dklynn · December 23, 2012, 8:39am

c1,

The question is what would be the solution to have the old posts and their adjacent category urls displayed correctly as I’ve described above?

Comments on your .htaccess code first:

YGBSM!
Most of the Apache core code should be (and probably is already) in the httpd.conf file. You’re wasting resources repeating the read/parse/execute of each of these directives MULTIPLE times for each file request made of the server.
You are wasting resources asking Apache to check whether various modules exist MULTIPLE times for each file request made of the server. I have a standard (i.e., do NOT take it personally) rant for the MULTIPLE mod_rewrite checks:

[rant #4][indent]The definition of an idiot is someone who repeatedly does the same thing expecting a different result. Asking Apache to confirm the existence of ANY module with an <IfModule> … </IfModule> wrapper is the same thing in the webmaster world. DON’T BE AN IDIOT! If you don’t know whether a module is enabled, run the test ONCE then REMOVE the wrapper as it is EXTREMELY wasteful of Apache’s resources (and should NEVER be allowed on a shared server).[/indent][/rant 4]

You DO have code in your pre-WP section which redirects to an _index.php file - look to that (use your LOG file to examine redirection handling) for your _index.php problem.
The long stream of mod_alias directives will be processed before mod_rewrite (because mod_alias is a core directive and mod_rewrite is not - it must be specifically enabled). This is another massive waste of resources (it belongs in your httpd.conf or httpd-vhosts.conf file, not in .htaccess) and you can use mod_rewrite’s regex capability to match patterns and redirect accordingly.

I don’t know how you got to such a point with your .htaccess file but I would seriously recommend a major clean-up. That would also allow you to find problems within your code much easier.

As for your desire to display two types of URIs, I don’t believe that WP can function that way (ergo, I try to keep away from WP and other CMS’s). Using mod_rewrite, you CAN create new URI formats and redirect TO the new format(s) while serving the original (functional) format. WP does a little of that for you but I think you’re asking for more than WP can do (natively - is there a plug-in you’re using?).

Regards,

DK