Hello all,
I’ve found this on another website, please share your opinion:
"PHP:
Even Rasmus Lerdorf (the creator of PHP for those of you who call yourselves fans of the language) will tell you that PHP was designed as a hacky throw-it-together language so he could call C routines from scripts that were easy to edit. It’s fantastic for small quick websites that need a little data access or dynamic content. It’s also free, which is great because the majority of cheap or free hosts out there support it (usual reasoning: most of their clients only want simple sites and will probably never use PHP, and they certainly won’t use ASP.NET, and linux boxes are cheap and linux comes with PHP and that’s generally why they offer it). PHP is not object oriented. The libraries are not designed to be object orinted, and supporting “classes” isn’t enough to call yourself OO. Classes were just an addin in version 4 (I think) and they’ve been improved in version 5, but they certainly don’t match the capabilities of .NET. In PHP you generally embed your PHP code into your HTML (ie <?php echo “Hello” ?> between HTML’s bold tags (for the more advanced people, templates don’t count).
ASP.NET
ASP.NET is a smaller part of the huge Microsoft .NET framework. You can write .NET applications (including ASP.NET sites) in many programming languages (C#, Visual Basic .NET, J#, Delphi .NET, Managed C++, or even in pure MSIL (for the purpose of this discussion, if you don’t know what MSIL is, it’s like assembly code)).
ASP.NET also encourages the use of a multi tiered design. Your HTML goes in a .ASPX page. Your actual <C#/VB.NET/whatever .NET language your using> code (usually, though you can chose) goes in a .ASPX.CS file. The code is kept seperate from the presentation. You are also encouraged to keep your data access code seperate to your business code - SQL queries never appear in the .ASPX.CS files for example.
So yes, ASP.NET does make things more complicated than PHP. You can’t just throw a page together, slap in a few render tags and call yourself an ASP.NET developer like you can (and people do) with PHP.
Now, PHP can do some of the stuff ASP.NET can do. For instance I believe it’s possible to seperate your PHP code from your HTML via templates. The problem is, the PHP documentation doesn’t encourage this, in fact it doesn’t even mention it AFAIK. You could also achieve a multi tiered design by putting source in different files, but again PHP documentation never discusses this. 99% of PHP tutorials teach you to throw database code between your HTML and business code.
But only half the problem is due to PHP’s “hacky design”. The other half is due to the user population, and it’s the same reason I’ve never stuck with Linux. Now I know there are very talented PHP coders out there, that create beatiful sites with excellent architecture. But you can’t say I’m wrong when I tell you that at least 90% of your average PHP coders are testosterone pumped teenagers (I was one of them once) who hate “M$” and want to stand up for the virtues of truth and justice by being alternative and supporting open source. They’re like the hippies of programming. It really is a case of the blind leading the blind - the PHP documentation supports “hacky” programming, the users learn from this, they go off and help other users and teach them the same thing. The barrier of entry for PHP is very low - it’s excellent for people new to programming and web technologies.
Conversely, 90% of ASP.NET programmers are probably well trained and experienced programmers. They’ve realized “Micro$oft” doesn’t “sux0rz” long ago, they’ve gotten laid and they’re (most anyway) pretty much over their acne problems. When you have an ASP.NET problem and ask for help, chances are you’ll get an answer that works but also is well designed, unlike a PHP question that’s usually answered by some 14 year old who threw a script together in notepad and didn’t even think about security or good design.
I can prove it. Show me a major bank that wrote their online banking system in PHP, or their internal account keeping systems in PHP, or even their “quote of the day” page that Doris the secretary uses to pass the time, and I’ll show you a thousand that use ASP.NET. No, it’s not because the banks are “in bed with M$”. The banks don’t “suck up to Micro$oft ROFLZ!!1” like many PHP advocates would tell you. It’s because they actually hire professionals, they write documentation (please, don’t faint, yes, in the real world you do have to document things first), they do a lot of research before picking a technology platform and they spend a lot of money on it.
Now, just because PHP isn’t as professional as ASP.NET, doesn’t make it a bad language - and I never said it was. Like Rasmus will tell you above, it’s designed with completely different goals in mind. PHP is fantastic for students and hobbyists. It’s bad for NASA space missions or the ASX. It’s great for a photo archive or a little forum or a blogging engine. It would probably be great for a hair dressers booking system, but I wouldn’t recommend it for an internal hospital patients records system.
Decide what you want to write or where you want to work before you pick the language. Always pick the right tool for the job and the right tools for your career (if you even want one as a web programmer)."
