SitePoint PHP in 2015: Future Plans

Fantastic feedback, thank you! I’ll ponder on this - already got the ball rolling on a couple of ideas mentioned here, but still experimenting and gathering feedback so this is super valuable, cheers!

Thanks. I’ll help any way I can, I’ve tested a lot of intranets and settled on Mango for our company.

Mango allows you to have unlimited guest users with unlimited groups and projects. Problem is, once inside a group, there is no further refinement of sections. So if there was a group for “PHP”, there is no further grouping for Drafts, Final Edits, and Ready to Publish, etc.
On the flip side, the file system lets you “upload new version” of files, keeping track of all revisions. And group chat, discussion, posts, wikis, even calendar, are a click away.

I don’t think Wordpress is up to the task of managing all this either. It puts a lot of extra workload on the server to run the front-end and backend intranet at the same time.

Not sure if you guys have given it a go but Jetpack by Automattic allows Markdown.

There’s other problems with Jetpack, we’ve looked at it.

By your description, Mango seems fantastic. Testing it now.

Edit: It’s awesome so far. Editing the calendar is a bit clumsy, and the task vs files interface tends to be confusing at first (until you realize they complement each other and sync updated), but all in all, very happy so far. One thing that confuses me, though, is “Admin Rights” in the second pricing tier - the free tier doesn’t have it.

If you remain in the free tier, all your users are free, but you won’t have admin features. As soon as you buy just ONE admin user, then every user with emails in the same domain will need to be paid too.

If you buy paid accounts for like sitepoint.com emails, then anybody NOT on a sitepoint email can still be a free user and only have access to groups/projects they are invited to.

I’m quite familiar with Mango but one of the issues it won’t handle as well as Trello is with sub-groups. For example you have a group for the PHP Channel for example, but then you also need a sub-group for suggestions, available topics, in progress, ready for edit etc.
I was thinking about this the other day, browsing my own Mango account trying to figure out how to organize the workflow of article editing. Use files only? Use one Post per article with tags? Use Wiki?

I don’t think Mango (or most other intranets) can do quite the same thing as Trello does by having multiple card topics within a general group. But then Trello doesn’t have the user permissions and document versioning and social aspects like an intranet does.

I see. I would actually only need it for the review part - comments by others and revisions of documents, so no need for sub groups like Ready for Edit etc. But this admin stuff when trial expires kind of throws a wrench into things. I wouldn’t mind paying for myself only, but having to pay for everyone with a sitepoint address wouldn’t be all that acceptable. I think I’ll go with a private github repo - this post is quite inspiring.

I guess I’m not exactly sure what you were looking to do then. Are you looking for a complete replacement of Trello? Or just a method of revisions on final drafts before publishing? Or method to submit changes to already-published docs?

I think it’s already difficult enough for you just getting authors to submit in Markdown, now they’d all have to have learn Git! That’s a tall order!

Since Github doesn’t have free private repositories, authors are likely to use BitBucket or something else to manage their articles, but again I think it’s a lot to ask authors to have to learn git and manage repositories for articles now. I could be very wrong, due to the nature of Sitepoint material, maybe most authors already use Git? But the point is where you host I guess, as long as it’s still free for authors and doesn’t require us to use one service for our private repositories, then transfer to a different service to work on the Sitepoint version etc.

I’m trying to imagine the workflow from article ideas and discussion all the way through to publishing and future revising.
It would nice if all of it could work in a single tool with a single login/interface, ya know? Hoping between forums and Trello and Git and WP is not nice :wink:

So, Sitepoint is using Wordpress? OMG!

Scott

No, I’m just looking to augment the Trello experience with some more structure and performance. With over 100 members and hundreds of cards, Trello regularly crashes and it’s incredibly slow.

I think most authors use Git by default, since I demand they publish Github repos of all demo code with tutorials, so forcing them to learn it proper would be a good thing, and would guarantee consistent quality across posts, at least in that regard. Still thinking about it though, nothing’s set in stone.

I’d pay for the private repo, and all the posts would just be forks or PRs, so no biggie. And it’s still markdown… just spitballing here though.

A single interface would definitely be better, yeah, but there’s not much that can be done about that until WP-API is implemented on SitePoint.

fewer and better , a great news !

I suggest you write an article about using paysafecard API in PHP

What exactly would you like to see? There are PHP examples on their site: https://www.paysafecard.com/en-global/business/downloads/

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You are doing a great job! I wish you many good articles for 2015

Thank you, much appreciated!

Thanks!

Yeah Swader’s articles have been very helpful, thank you so much for the excellent work and guidance.

Thank you sir, much obliged!

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