Would you agree this is the definition of a PHP framework?

[mAAdhaTTah]

@tony_marston404

Nowhere in the Wikipedia definition of a framework does it say that the developer has to write code to call the framework before the framework takes control. While a little code may be necessary in order to tell the framework which application component to run, it should be so little and so simple that the framework should be able to generate it for you. That is exactly what Radicore does.

Laravel does exactly that as well, yet you dismiss it as “not a framework.”

@tony_marston404

I said that you don’t have to write any code in order to generate components which have basic and default behaviour

Does “basic and default behavior” !== “do anything”? I’m not sure what your objection is. Laravel comes with a set of base classes with “basic and default behavior” that you can extend with your own custom code if you want it to do more.

@tony_marston404

But what if you are using a Front Controller and a Router? Surely the application starts at the Front Controller and the Front Controller is part of the framework? Or are you saying that you have to write your own Front Controllers and Routers?

Errrr, no. Laravel comes with those and controls the flow of execution through them.